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	<title>Comments on: Google Gives J2ME the Finger, but Still Needs a Carrier Partner</title>
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		<title>By: Jamie Flournoy</title>
		<link>http://www.pervasivecode.com/blog/2007/11/12/google-gives-j2me-the-finger-but-still-needs-a-carrier-partner/comment-page-1/#comment-4124</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Flournoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Symbian hols 70% of Mobile OS market

Google needs a carrier partner because carriers control the U.S. mobile market. Symbian is not a player of any consequence in the U.S. market (with approximately a 5% market share), while Microsoft has somewhere around 1/3 of the smartphone market. So, with my U.S. market blinders on, Symbian is irrelevant. Honestly I&#039;ve never even seen a Symbian phone outside of a trade show booth. They just don&#039;t matter here.

Outside the U.S., Symbian appears to dominate, but I&#039;m not sure whether that puts them in a position to use relationships with carriers, handset makers (Nokia, really), or network operators to defend against competition. My guess is, it does not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>Symbian hols 70% of Mobile OS market</p>
<p>Google needs a carrier partner because carriers control the U.S. mobile market. Symbian is not a player of any consequence in the U.S. market (with approximately a 5% market share), while Microsoft has somewhere around 1/3 of the smartphone market. So, with my U.S. market blinders on, Symbian is irrelevant. Honestly I&#8217;ve never even seen a Symbian phone outside of a trade show booth. They just don&#8217;t matter here.</p>
<p>Outside the U.S., Symbian appears to dominate, but I&#8217;m not sure whether that puts them in a position to use relationships with carriers, handset makers (Nokia, really), or network operators to defend against competition. My guess is, it does not.</p>
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		<title>By: Swami Guru</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swami Guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t you think Symbian is a bigger threat than Microsoft considering Nokia is not part of the alliance? Symbian hols 70% of Mobile OS market compared to Windows Mobile which has 6%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you think Symbian is a bigger threat than Microsoft considering Nokia is not part of the alliance? Symbian hols 70% of Mobile OS market compared to Windows Mobile which has 6%.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Flournoy</title>
		<link>http://www.pervasivecode.com/blog/2007/11/12/google-gives-j2me-the-finger-but-still-needs-a-carrier-partner/comment-page-1/#comment-3862</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Flournoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;You did not mentions how Googles bid for airwaves fit in?

Yes, I didn&#039;t explicitly say this but I was thinking it when I mentioned Google&#039;s potential to bypass the &quot;network folks&quot;. But owning spectrum doesn&#039;t take care of retail, marketing, billing, building out the cell tower network, etc. That&#039;s a very big job with competitors who are far more experienced and entrenched than Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>You did not mentions how Googles bid for airwaves fit in?</p>
<p>Yes, I didn&#8217;t explicitly say this but I was thinking it when I mentioned Google&#8217;s potential to bypass the &#8220;network folks&#8221;. But owning spectrum doesn&#8217;t take care of retail, marketing, billing, building out the cell tower network, etc. That&#8217;s a very big job with competitors who are far more experienced and entrenched than Google.</p>
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		<title>By: Damon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the article.  You did not mentions how Googles bid for airwaves fit in?  That means they will control the network, os, application and server?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the article.  You did not mentions how Googles bid for airwaves fit in?  That means they will control the network, os, application and server?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Untulis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Untulis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, Verizon&#039;s gambit of &quot;opening&quot; up their network may be a sea change for the network folks that is your second shoe. Or it could be a head fake to create uncertainty and doubt (probably not fear except for other network folks) and stall for more time for a better response to Android making the software plumbing more important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, Verizon&#8217;s gambit of &#8220;opening&#8221; up their network may be a sea change for the network folks that is your second shoe. Or it could be a head fake to create uncertainty and doubt (probably not fear except for other network folks) and stall for more time for a better response to Android making the software plumbing more important.</p>
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