Comments on: Ruby First Impressions: Backup Scripting http://www.pervasivecode.com/blog/2007/03/04/ruby-first-impressions-backup-scripting/ Jamie Flournoy's Software Development Blog Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:57:29 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: James http://www.pervasivecode.com/blog/2007/03/04/ruby-first-impressions-backup-scripting/comment-page-1/#comment-7262 James Mon, 26 May 2008 23:40:02 +0000 http://www.pervasivecode.com/blog/2007/03/04/ruby-first-impressions-backup-scripting/#comment-7262 How goes the backup project? Were you able to build the system that you were after? I'm hoping to pick up some scraps! How goes the backup project? Were you able to build the system that you were after? I’m hoping to pick up some scraps!

]]> By: Larry http://www.pervasivecode.com/blog/2007/03/04/ruby-first-impressions-backup-scripting/comment-page-1/#comment-5051 Larry Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:46:00 +0000 http://www.pervasivecode.com/blog/2007/03/04/ruby-first-impressions-backup-scripting/#comment-5051 Quite interesting, I am a beginner and want to write just a home backup script (like rar and copy x directory to y mapped drive and label with date-time, maybe append a log file and add on as I learn what I can do.). As a beginner I like the concept behind ruby and have tried perl and a few others in the past, yet still struggle. I have found quite a bit of enthusiasm of Ruby and am glad to read your forthright comments. Quite interesting, I am a beginner and want to write just a home backup script (like rar and copy x directory to y mapped drive and label with date-time, maybe append a log file and add on as I learn what I can do.).
As a beginner I like the concept behind ruby and have tried perl and a few others in the past, yet still struggle.
I have found quite a bit of enthusiasm of Ruby and am glad to read your forthright comments.

]]> By: Jamie Flournoy http://www.pervasivecode.com/blog/2007/03/04/ruby-first-impressions-backup-scripting/comment-page-1/#comment-7 Jamie Flournoy Wed, 07 Mar 2007 07:39:16 +0000 http://www.pervasivecode.com/blog/2007/03/04/ruby-first-impressions-backup-scripting/#comment-7 Yes, the GPLing of Java is great news, and will have a very positive effect on Java's adoption by the open source community. But it's not actually there yet - announcements have been made, but only some of it is available today, and they admit that there are non-open-source binaries that will be included. The community will likely replace that quickly, but that's another few weeks or months between Sun offering a download (99% open source, 1% not?), and having the whole enchilada be open source. That distinction matters to people like the Debian group, gNewSense, etc. (Some distros, like Ubuntu, may choose a more pragmatic path and distribute now with non-free binaries included, similar to the way they consider non-free binary drivers to be something that people should have the option to install.) In addition, the open-source community will also have to look over the code and try to decide how patent-encumbered the code is. This is the same struggle that the Mono folks have - if the implementation code is free, but the spec and/or code are covered by existing patents, the developer and end-user are still locked in the trunk. So, I predict it'll be a few years (3-5?) before all of the non-free junk is scrubbed out of Java and it is declared actually open source, 100%. Yes, the GPLing of Java is great news, and will have a very positive effect on Java’s adoption by the open source community.

But it’s not actually there yet – announcements have been made, but only some of it is available today, and they admit that there are non-open-source binaries that will be included. The community will likely replace that quickly, but that’s another few weeks or months between Sun offering a download (99% open source, 1% not?), and having the whole enchilada be open source. That distinction matters to people like the Debian group, gNewSense, etc. (Some distros, like Ubuntu, may choose a more pragmatic path and distribute now with non-free binaries included, similar to the way they consider non-free binary drivers to be something that people should have the option to install.)

In addition, the open-source community will also have to look over the code and try to decide how patent-encumbered the code is. This is the same struggle that the Mono folks have – if the implementation code is free, but the spec and/or code are covered by existing patents, the developer and end-user are still locked in the trunk.

So, I predict it’ll be a few years (3-5?) before all of the non-free junk is scrubbed out of Java and it is declared actually open source, 100%.

]]> By: Jason Untulis http://www.pervasivecode.com/blog/2007/03/04/ruby-first-impressions-backup-scripting/comment-page-1/#comment-6 Jason Untulis Wed, 07 Mar 2007 06:20:17 +0000 http://www.pervasivecode.com/blog/2007/03/04/ruby-first-impressions-backup-scripting/#comment-6 Your analysis on Java hassles was pretty much correct, except the first domino <a href="http://www.sun.com/software/opensource/java/" rel="nofollow">is</a> <a href="https://openjdk.dev.java.net/" rel="nofollow">failing</a> Your analysis on Java hassles was pretty much correct, except the first domino is failing

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